networks and if you go back to the debt ceiling fight. one. things that angered the white house was republicans were saying repeatedly, the president hasn't put forth a plan. what is his plan to cut spending and the answer was, well, you're just spouting fox talking points and that's when you get mad. when you ask them for some substantive commitment on issues what you've seen in the last few weeks. >> we call members of the democratic party every single night. the congressman rupert will come on and congressman ben holland. but it's sort of what i hear from some when they pull me aside, not most, but some is that they get into trouble with their leadership if they come on fox. that there's sort of peer pressure within the democrats. >> well, there's all sorts of enforcement mechanisms for each party, no doubt. parties have the constituencies and organized labor is one of them they don't like to cross the constituencies, what they often do is accuse the other party to be too cowardly to cross their own constituency. >> i guess they've bee